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#28774 - 02/18/05 12:45 PM samick brands of pianos
Christina Offline
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does anyone have a samick piano they could tell me about? i'm checking into a local piano store that sells the Kohler & Campbell, the B. Steiner and the Hazelton names. is anyone familiar? i've only vaguely heard the name in passing. any good or bad stories? any personal info besides what i've read on the internet would be greatly appreciated. thanks!
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#28775 - 02/19/05 04:32 AM Re: samick brands of pianos
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If your local library has a copy of "The Piano Book", by Larry Fine, I think you would find it an invaluable resource as you look into purchasing a piano.

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#28776 - 02/19/05 04:51 AM Re: samick brands of pianos
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I may be able to help you out here- used to spend alot of time helping out a music store that made me their piano specialist for good pianos and advice on keyboard and strings supplies.
Kohler and Campbell- I would pass it up. They are great for beginners but don't have in my opinion the sound needed or balance in keys for intermediates and up. Samick I have never been impressed with at all. They are OK but I don't think the keys are evenly balanced or weighted properly to touch. They can be a bit hard to get technique out on making it clumsy to play. My church used to have a Samick they bought new and I used to play it for church regularly in offeratory and other things to accompany people. Was not impressed.
If you are looking to purchase for yourself I would look at Boston. Most Steinway locations will carry Boston in addition to their original namesake. You may also want to look at Yamaha who surprisingly makes a really nice piano. I have several students who play on a yamaha and have played them myself. They are really nice pianos but you don't want a yamaha built before mid 80's because they are'nt as nice in tone or touch.
If a student is looking for a piano I'd steer them towards Essex (made by Steinway. These have a fairly good balance, quick response and nice tone over all octaves), Yamaha or even an entry level Kawaii piano is nice in balance. If your looking for upper end pianos though, I'd stick with Yamaha, Boston or a Steinway in that order of preference.

Pearl River and Baldwin are two I would avoid as well. My mom has a baldwin and has never been happy with it. Always has some problem in balance or sound or something. Any student I have ever had using a baldwin has also ditched it pretty quickly for something else for the same reasons. Pearl River also falls into this category- they look pretty but inside and in sound they aren't much to write home about.

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#28777 - 02/19/05 05:01 AM Re: samick brands of pianos
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thanks, pfv teach, that's just the type of personal recommendations/warnings i was looking for. since i only have a digital piano at the moment, i haven't seen too many pianos up close recently. i worked at a music store for 2 years who mainly dealt with kawaii, which i have come to really like. unfortunately, i am in a different city now, so i'm not sure who i'd buy from. the salesman told me that these days 90% of the pianos made have a really bright tone. does anyone know if this is true? i didn't think kawaii does, so i'm wondering if this guy is just trying to schmooze me. (i didn't tell him my experience in music, so as far as he knows, i knew nothing).how do you find a trustworthy piano salesperson these days? i guess start with a brand you like first, huh?
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#28778 - 02/19/05 05:15 AM Re: samick brands of pianos
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Although I'm not knowledgeable about all piano brands, I would personally opt for a Yamaha first, then Kawai.

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#28779 - 02/19/05 06:33 AM Re: samick brands of pianos
Lisa Kalmar Offline
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You really need to read The Piano Book as a way to educate yourself. It should not be considered as the Bible for selection, but it will give you some excellent background information. Piano companies have gone through so many changes it is probably not fair to make blanket statements about particular brands. Baldwins of today are not the same as Baldwins in the late 70's which were not the same as Baldwins made earlier, for instance. Ditto Yamaha, which makes a very fine piano if you purchase the correct one.

Then there are some brands that have always been awful. The book will point that out as well! ;\)

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#28780 - 02/19/05 07:03 AM Re: samick brands of pianos
Christina Offline
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thanks guys!
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#28781 - 02/19/05 12:15 PM Re: samick brands of pianos
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when checking out pianos at music stores go with your gut on both sales pitch and your experience combined. If you have the feeling your being schmoozed you probably are. Salesmen work on comission so they will tell you the buyer whatever they think you want to hear to make the sale. On the Steinway web site they have a publication you can get FREE called "8 Keys to Finding a Piano" which is helpful regardless of what maker you go with. The site is at www.steinway.com

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#28782 - 02/20/05 01:41 AM Re: samick brands of pianos
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What does "pitchy" mean? I've been confused ever since American Idol started telling people they were pitchy. Is it slang?

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#28783 - 02/20/05 04:41 AM Re: samick brands of pianos
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PITCHY:
with instruments it refers to discolored tone that is uneven in balance. Sounds as if a gap is between octaves when changing, uneven tone and balance in sound. No smooth transition between high/low/low/high or middle ranges.
In the case of American Idol pitchy refers to being in and out of tune and wandering in sound.

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