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#28717 - 10/19/04 08:22 AM Piano Tuning Issues
xstitch4me Offline
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Ok...I had my piano tuned, you have to realize it's 21 years old....first of all the tuner couldn't fix my squeaky pedal. He came back twice and finally refunded my money on that part. I eventually fixed it myself by practically taking the whole thing apart and finding a little rubber thing that goes on it which he didn't replace and spraying the insides with....well I can't remember the name now. Anyhooooo....after he left I still had some notes that sounded "flat". When I called, he notified me that I had "dead" strings....which he didn't tell me while he was here. I've since asked tons of people in the business who have never heard of dead strings. Is this a real thing? Or was my tuner a loser who just messed up? I don't want him coming again...he said the strings are $20 a pop and there are 4 dead. I would love to hear input on this.......I'll be holding my breath waiting.... ;\)

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#28718 - 10/19/04 09:24 AM Re: Piano Tuning Issues
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#28719 - 10/19/04 11:37 AM Re: Piano Tuning Issues
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Registered: 02/20/03
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Loc: New Mexico
Dead strings? That's a new one.

A less-than-ethical piano tuner in Lubbock did some work on my piano, which I later found out (from 2 reputable piano technicians, one of whom works for TTU) was completely unnecessary. It wouldn't have been so bad except that the work he did cost me almost $1k, and the piano was still not right (thus the reason I had to call another technician).

Thankfully, the 2 other technicians fixed the piano. \:\) The one from TTU couldn't actually do much 'cuz of his full-time job at the univ., but at least he was able to replace all the felt underneath the key bed and the pedal (that fixed the squeeky pedal, btw). The other technician, who he referred to me, did the voicing. That was all it took to fix my piano's problems. Needless to say, I wish I'd called the technician at TTU in the first place, \:o but I guess that's water under the bridge. Hindsight is better than foresight. ;\)

I hope you get your piano fixed soon, by an honest and well-qualified technician. Good luck!

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#28720 - 10/19/04 11:43 AM Re: Piano Tuning Issues
Carole Offline
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Registered: 06/08/00
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Loc: southern California
BTW, piano tuners are very scarce here. My tuner is retired and does very little anymore. I have no one to refer my students.

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#28721 - 10/19/04 11:55 AM Re: Piano Tuning Issues
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Registered: 09/04/04
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Loc: Alpharetta, GA
I think Jalapena has the right terminology--an honest and well-qualified technician (not necessarily just a tuner). Piano Technicians Guild has a website--don't know the address right off-hand. I found my piano technician by calling a local piano store that my MTA group has worked with quite a bit and got a recommendation from them. When we bought my piano (from another store--before my favorite piano store was in business), the store sent out a guy who tuned by ear. He was AWFUL!! I had him come back twice and still couldn't get the piano in tune. I finally gave up and got a qualified tech to come do it. Be careful!!

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#28722 - 10/19/04 12:17 PM Re: Piano Tuning Issues
xstitch4me Offline
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Registered: 08/15/04
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Loc: Idaho
Wow, now I really feel like he didn't know what he was doing. I got his name from a music store - he tunes all of their pianos. It is VERY interesting that nobody has heard of dead strings....I think I'll the University and find out who does their tunings. However, I worry a little that my piano is old and maybe they only like working on nice grand pianos. Thanks for the input.

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#28723 - 10/19/04 05:21 PM Re: Piano Tuning Issues
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I've heard of dead strings......sent the website to you earlier, but........

The bass on my piano sounds thumpy and "dead". what can we do?
First you need to understand why the tone in the bass has deteriorated. Bass strings are wrapped with copper winding so they will vibrate slow enough to produce low tones. Over the years, corrosion builds up between the copper windings and the steel core, and inhibits the free vibration of the strings necessary for a full, rich tone.
Sometimes it is possible to revive the old strings by taking them off the piano and flexing them to break up the corrosion. Unfortunately, there's no guarantee how long this procedure will remain effective, if it works at all. The permanent solution is installation of new, custom-made bass strings.
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#28724 - 10/19/04 06:09 PM Re: Piano Tuning Issues
Jalapeņa Offline
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Registered: 02/20/03
Posts: 1143
Loc: New Mexico
The rip-off artist that did all that unnecessary work was not only a technician, but was a member of the Guild. Being a Guild member is no guarantee that a technician will be honest. Fortunately for me, I managed to find some good technicians (also Guild members) to fix my piano.

I knew about dead strings... I just had never heard of them on a piano that's only 21 years old. My piano's almost 30 years old, and the strings are still fine.

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#28725 - 10/19/04 06:50 PM Re: Piano Tuning Issues
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Registered: 09/17/04
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Loc: USA
On tuners and techs the difference is a tuner does that, tunes. Techs can fix things gone wrong inside as well as tune. Anytime I've switched techs because of where I lived I always asked for three references they have done work for and phone numbers to see how reputable they are or aren't. Lucky for me I found a really good tech that I use where I live and recommend him to all my students.

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#28726 - 10/20/04 06:22 AM Re: Piano Tuning Issues
xstitch4me Offline
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Registered: 08/15/04
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Loc: Idaho
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Originally posted by Vivace:
Dead strings


Didn't know this was a web site. Thanks for your input. Sounds like I have to invest in the 4 new strings.

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