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#26526 - 07/21/02 06:27 PM Re: Music Makers: At The Keyboard
Jalapeņo Offline
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One thing's for sure. I'm not using the MFLM level 2 books! I just looked at the MFLM level 2 lessons bk., & it has the typical Alfred positional pieces with a picture of a keyboard at the top of each page to show kids where to put their hands. Once I'm done with MFLM level 1, I'm going to PA Primer or something that does not have those blankety blank diagrams! Why do they take what could be a good method & mess it up like that?

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#26527 - 07/21/02 06:46 PM Re: Music Makers: At The Keyboard
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PA Primer doesn't have the keyboard diagrams at the top of the page???

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#26528 - 07/22/02 06:51 AM Re: Music Makers: At The Keyboard
Jalapeņo Offline
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Originally posted by dlinder:
PA Primer doesn't have the keyboard diagrams at the top of the page???


For the off-staff pieces, yes. Once the staff is introduced, the Fabers only give diagrams that show new notes (where the notes are on the staff & where they are on the keyboard). They do not show students where to put their hands.

In contrast, the MFLM level 2 lessons bk. has color-coded keyboard diagrams (each key is a different color; students learn these colors in level 1) showing exact hand placement, & telling students what hand position they're playing in, even after on-staff reading is introduced.

IMO, I think the sooner students can start reading the staff, & the sooner they can be taught how to figure out the hand position themselves (without the aid of a keyboard diagram), the better.

I guess if you started someone as young as 4 years of age in piano lessons, you might could have them learn off-staff pieces (with diagrams) for a longer period of time without doing much, if any, damage. However, I do not plan to teach anyone who has just turned 4. I prefer to work with ages 5 & up, but will take 4.5-year-olds if I think they're ready to begin private piano study. It's not my intention to be a general music teacher. We have Kindermusik teachers in town for that. Everything I teach (body movements, singing, etc.) will revolve around learning to play the piano. Anyone who doesn't want to learn to play the piano can go take Kindermusik classes.

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#26529 - 07/22/02 04:22 PM Re: Music Makers: At The Keyboard
bethann Offline
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I keep waiting for someone else to ask Eric what he found scary at the Musikgarten site. Since I am still weighing all my options, Eric, will you please elaborate??????

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#26530 - 07/22/02 06:14 PM Re: Music Makers: At The Keyboard
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Jala, thanks for clarifying that. This is my first student to have in PA primer (I've used the other levels) and we haven't got passed the off-staff notation yet. I did notice today though, that once they introduce the C position in the off-staff they don't use the diagram any more either, they just say to use the C position.

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#26531 - 07/22/02 08:22 PM Re: Music Makers: At The Keyboard
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Originally posted by bethann:
I keep waiting for someone else to ask Eric what he found scary at the Musikgarten site. Since I am still weighing all my options, Eric, will you please elaborate??????




Musikgarten's Hidden Agenda





[ July 22, 2002: Message edited by: Eric ]

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#26532 - 07/22/02 10:28 PM Re: Music Makers: At The Keyboard
alidoremi Offline
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Oh puh...lease!

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#26533 - 07/23/02 07:50 AM Re: Music Makers: At The Keyboard
Me Offline
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Me thinks that site was disturbing! I guess their philosophy is "get 'em while their young, before they can make up their own mind!"

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#26534 - 07/23/02 07:52 AM Re: Music Makers: At The Keyboard
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\:\) \:\) \:\) I went to the site and I don't see what Eric was talking about....it looks like a wonderful curriculum! \:\) \:\) \:\)

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#26535 - 07/23/02 08:14 AM Re: Music Makers: At The Keyboard
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