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#26239 - 05/31/05 01:51 PM Would you recommend Developing Artist Library or other?
jstmom Offline
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My daughter, turning 10, will be in Piano Adventures Level 4 this summer. She is interested in gaining a classical background. Her piano teacher has no other students who are this interested in classical and her students (all Jr. High age or older) who have finished Level 4 usually just pick pieces they are interested in learning. My daughter wants to start playing more classical music now and I know she will do best right now using a piano "lesson" book format (By this I mean going through a piano book from beginning to end like PA). So we are looking for classical lesson books that would work with PA 4. Would you as teachers please recommend some classical piano books and also tell me if you think that Developing Artist Library would work best? I have looked at the descriptions of DA on-line but have not been able to actually look at the books. Thanks so much.

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#26240 - 05/31/05 04:08 PM Re: Would you recommend Developing Artist Library or other?
Susan Offline
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I think it is best to talk with her teacher and tell her your concerns about learning classical music. She will probably be delighted. Work with the teacher to find the best book for your daughter. I'm sure the teacher has her favorites. If your teacher does not want to do classical music, then look for another teacher.
I would not recommend getting a classical book and letting your daughter work on it without a qualified teacher. She would learn all kinds of bad habits that may take years to fix. Plus each time period of "classical" music is played in a different style, and it really takes a good teacher to teach the style of each period.

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#26241 - 05/31/05 04:30 PM Re: Would you recommend Developing Artist Library or other?
alidoremi Offline
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I LOVE the Developing Artist series. I begin using it with students when they are about Level 2B (DA level Prep). Many of the pieces are lesser-known works, but excellent to introduce classical music to students. It's divided into periods of music, so you'd be jumping around the book instead of going from beginning to end. I highly recommend the series.

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#26242 - 05/31/05 04:36 PM Re: Would you recommend Developing Artist Library or other?
PFVTeach Offline
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My students at this same level enjoy book 4 of the Masterworks Classics. It has some fun pieces in it and is a nice compilation of pieces in classical music.
The other one that is nice to use is the intermediate book by FJH Piano Literature books. It also has some nice arrangements and pieces in it as well.

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#26243 - 06/01/05 09:32 AM Re: Would you recommend Developing Artist Library or other?
Whitney Offline
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I use the Developing Artist series too ( I start around Level 2A or 2B). I also like the Masterworks Classics and the Keith Snell Repertoire books for more variety. There is also a good FJH Sonatina series that I think is part of the Developing Artist Library.

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#26244 - 06/04/05 04:16 PM Re: Would you recommend Developing Artist Library or other?
jstmom Offline
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Thanks for the suggestions. Susan, I had talked to the teacher and she says she is excited to help my daughter learn classical music. She had no real preference on the classical piano book which is why I asked for reccomendations here. Also my daughter won't be learning them on her own just with the teacher. Thanks.

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#26245 - 06/04/05 05:51 PM Re: Would you recommend Developing Artist Library or other?
Carole Offline
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I like the DA books too. Also Bastien Piano Literature books are very good. There are three levels and there is one CD for books 1 and 2 and a CD for level 3.

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#26246 - 06/05/05 05:26 PM Re: Would you recommend Developing Artist Library or other?
Joy123 Offline
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Carol, which, in your opinion, is better--The Developing Artist Series or The Bastien Piano Literature?

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#26247 - 06/05/05 07:21 PM Re: Would you recommend Developing Artist Library or other?
Carole Offline
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They are both excellent. I have used both successfully. Bastien 3 has alot of literature for your bucks. I DO like having the Cds, but they are a bit pricey at about $13 each set (1&2 and 3)last time I looked.

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#26248 - 06/05/05 09:17 PM Re: Would you recommend Developing Artist Library or other?
mirlou Offline
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there is also a Bastien level 4, much thicker than 3. It includes Bach Inventions, Mozart and Beethoven sonatas, Kabalevsky sonatine and lots of wonderful recital pieces, also some composers I didn't know much about before, like Tscherepnin.

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#26249 - 06/24/05 05:28 AM Re: Would you recommend Developing Artist Library or other?
Emily Offline
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Can I add the Masterpieces with Flair and Melodious Masterpieces edited by Jane McGrath? They have some fun pieces in them and include a suggested order of learning.

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#26250 - 06/28/05 04:18 AM Re: Would you recommend Developing Artist Library or other?
songbird Offline
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jstmom:

I am curious why your teacher doesn't teach her students classical music unless the parent requests it? Also interesting to me is that she doesn't have a "preference" on which books to use. I don't mean to rouse undue suspicion about your teacher, as I'm sure she's wonderful, however, it may be (and in fact it sounds to me) that this teacher does not have experience teaching the classics? If you would like your daughter to learn classical music, it is VERY important to have a teacher who knows how to teach them, as someone mentioned on here even just knowing the differences in the styles of music matters when it comes to teaching the classicals. Something for you to consider. Now, I'm not assuming your daughter will be pruned for a career as a concert pianist, but you still want to get what you are paying for and there are TONS of teachers out there who have years experience teaching classical music. I wonder why this teacher doesn't?

Just something to think about.

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Originally posted by jstmom:
Thanks for the suggestions. Susan, I had talked to the teacher and she says she is excited to help my daughter learn classical music. She had no real preference on the classical piano book which is why I asked for reccomendations here. Also my daughter won't be learning them on her own just with the teacher. Thanks.

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#26251 - 06/28/05 04:59 AM Re: Would you recommend Developing Artist Library or other?
songbird Offline
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Carole, I'd be interested to know how you've used the CDs in your teaching? Do you always agree with the way the pieces are played?

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Originally posted by Carole:
They are both excellent. I have used both successfully. Bastien 3 has alot of literature for your bucks. I DO like having the Cds, but they are a bit pricey at about $13 each set (1&2 and 3)last time I looked.

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#26252 - 06/28/05 05:01 AM Re: Would you recommend Developing Artist Library or other?
songbird Offline
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By the way, Alfred has started bundling the Masterwork Classics CDs with the books, so now it is MUCH cheaper to have the CDs as well. In fact, you can't buy the books without the CDs anymore. Too bad for anyone who doesn't like the CDs, but great deal for those of us who do!

Alfred was saying the cost of the CD covers/packaging was what made them the price they were. Now, I think you can get a book with the CD for just $10.

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#26253 - 07/01/05 03:46 PM Re: Would you recommend Developing Artist Library or other?
PFVTeach Offline
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I've always used the CDS that come with books for students to get a sense of the dynamics and development of the piece from section to section OR between movements in a piece. It has really been helpful when they reach the intermediate stages and really has helped them hear and listen closely in their playing as well- both with songs that are on a CD and one's without.
For my group classes it really gives them the experience of an "orchestra" without having one and forces them to count as their instrument part is usually eliminated on the group CDS so it is beneficial there as well. It also makes practicing for students more fun because they can "play along" with some of the CDS that are out there now.
Both myself and students have enjoyed the way many publishers are now bundling the book and CD into one package for a great price. It works well that most of them don't go over $10.00 range too since alot of people are getting very budget conscience about things these days.

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#26254 - 07/01/05 05:39 PM Re: Would you recommend Developing Artist Library or other?
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Originally posted by songbird:

I am curious why your teacher doesn't teach her students classical music unless the parent requests it? Also interesting to me is that she doesn't have a "preference" on which books to use. I don't mean to rouse undue suspicion about your teacher, as I'm sure she's wonderful, however, it may be (and in fact it sounds to me) that this teacher does not have experience teaching the classics? If you would like your daughter to learn classical music, it is VERY important to have a teacher who knows how to teach them, as someone mentioned on here even just knowing the differences in the styles of music matters when it comes to teaching the classicals.
Songbird, my reaction was the very same.

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#26255 - 07/01/05 05:42 PM Re: Would you recommend Developing Artist Library or other?
GeeTee Offline
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Speaking of the Developing Artist series and CDs, I wonder why the FJH hasn't included CDs with these books? This would enhance them tremendously. While I do like this set, I'm quicker to turn to those intermediate series that DO include or at least offer a CD.

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