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#22311 - 03/03/03 09:33 PM Re: Beethoven: Sonatina in G
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Just got off the phone with Beethoven, and he'd just assume we all shut up and go practice. \:D
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#22312 - 03/03/03 09:48 PM Re: Beethoven: Sonatina in G
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#22313 - 03/04/03 05:52 AM Re: Beethoven: Sonatina in G
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Jason:
Just got off the phone with Beethoven, and he'd just assume we all shut up and go practice. \:D


\:D I'm gonna practice the Sonatina in G (supposedly written by Beethoven) & play the ornaments as grace notes. I just think it sounds better that way. \:\)

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#22314 - 03/04/03 07:28 AM Re: Beethoven: Sonatina in G
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Jason:
Just got off the phone with Beethoven, and he'd just assume we all shut up and go practice. \:D


How's the guy doing? Send him my regards, will ya? \:D

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#22315 - 03/04/03 09:56 AM Re: Beethoven: Sonatina in G
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I'll tell him you said hi! He was a little short on the phone, apparently he's working on his 18th symphony. The premiere of the 17th didn't go so well (something about Heaven's symphony being difficult to work with), but he thinks the 18th will be his best since #14, and easily better than the 9th.
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#22316 - 03/04/03 10:58 AM Re: Beethoven: Sonatina in G
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Jason,

When you speak to him over the phone, be sure to speak up. A recent conversation I had with him was very frustrating:

Eric: Hi, Ludwig, it's Eric!
Beethoven: Eh?
Eric: It's me Ludwig....ERIC!
Beethoven: Eh?
Eric: Listen, I had a question for you concerning appoggiaturas..
Beethoven: What was that?
Eric: APPOGGIATURAS...
Beethoven: Hunh?
Eric APPOGGIATURAS
Beethoven: Oh....no need to apologize, Aaron. Now did you have a musical question?

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#22317 - 03/04/03 02:44 PM Re: Beethoven: Sonatina in G
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This afternoon I had lunch with ol' LUDE (he prefers that name).

We almost got into a conversation about why so FEW pianists today improvise ornaments (or have a sense of spontaneity in general) when suddenly a cell phone went off nearby and he heard "Fur Elise" played as a digital snippet.

He spat out his Schweinehaxe right into my face and collapsed immediately.

Beethoven is now officially dead.

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#22318 - 03/06/03 06:43 AM Re: Beethoven: Sonatina in G
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Don't shoot me here, but I've heard from many reputable sources that Beethoven, while composing toward the end of the classical period, was really the beginning of the Romantic period, since many of his practices 'stretched' the classical style and seemed to identify more with the movement toward a romantic style of playing. Any thoughts???

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#22319 - 03/06/03 06:46 AM Re: Beethoven: Sonatina in G
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By the way, I learned Sonatina in G using a grace note style of playing.

Maurice Hinson's video "Performance Practices in Baroque Keyboard Music" touches on the differences in stylistic renderings of appogiaturas vs. grace notes in Baroque keyboard music, and applies the general 'use your musical taste' rule to both the baroque and the classical eras, as long as both are 'educated' tastes and keep in mind the practices of the time. Even though it is a video on the baroque period, I do believe he plays the Sonatina in G and demonstrates that the opening note in question can be played either way.

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#22320 - 03/06/03 10:07 AM Re: Beethoven: Sonatina in G
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I have that video, so I'll pop it in my VCR & check it out today. Little Pepper is sick, so I can't run any errands today anyway.

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