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#22262 - 04/08/03 05:43 PM Chopin Prelude
dlinder Offline
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I have an 11 yr. old boy transfer student in John Thompson 2. He says he wants to change books because he doesn't like the music in this book. After struggling through Chopin's Prelude in A Major today, I said to him, "I really want you to work on this piece this week because I really like it and I think you will too. Here, let me play it for you so you can hear how it is supposed to sound..."
When I finished I asked him if he had ever heard it before. "Yes, on one of my video games."

Well, hallelujah, now he is very motivated to play this piece!!!
Anyone know of any other "video game songs"??

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#22263 - 04/09/03 08:29 PM Re: Chopin Prelude
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Well, my 9-year-old got one of those CD game collections about a year ago, and I think it was the SimCopter game that was using Beethoven's "Waldstein" sonata in the background! (I heard it from another room, and was rather amused). That's not a piece he's going to be playing anytime soon!

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#22264 - 04/10/03 08:26 AM Re: Chopin Prelude
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I learned yesterday from another student (14 yr. old boy) that the Chopin prelude is from one of the levels on Final Fantasy 8. Apparently this one game has 4 CD's of different levels.....amazing.

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#22265 - 04/10/03 08:41 AM Re: Chopin Prelude
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Yep. The Final Fantasy series (they're up to FF10 or 11 now I think) isn't just a game - it's a rich world with all the tales and intrigue of a good fantasy novel. There have been books and even a movie based on the series, and it's been a wonderful source of fan fiction and art as well.

FF is cool!
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#22266 - 04/10/03 08:59 AM Re: Chopin Prelude
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Jason, I thought of you and had a feeling you were involved in this subculture!! \:\)

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#22267 - 04/10/03 10:20 AM Re: Chopin Prelude
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Funny you should mention this about music in video games.... I've had a lot of spare time and have written an award winning module series for the PC role playing game Neverwinter Nights. I used selections from Stravinsky, Prokofiev, Hohvaness, Orff, Mozart, Mahler, and Bruckner instead of the canned music that came with the game. You should read the comments: "The music really makes this game come alive." "The music gives this a real epic feel." "The music makes me forget I'm playing a game that came with bad music." "I can't bear to hear that canned game music anymore." "What were the selections? I'm going to Tower later today."

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#22268 - 04/11/03 01:13 PM Re: Chopin Prelude
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Originally posted by Piano lady:
Funny you should mention this about music in video games.... I've had a lot of spare time and have written an award winning module series for the PC role playing game Neverwinter Nights. I used selections from Stravinsky, Prokofiev, Hohvaness, Orff, Mozart, Mahler, and Bruckner instead of the canned music that came with the game. You should read the comments: "The music really makes this game come alive." "The music gives this a real epic feel." "The music makes me forget I'm playing a game that came with bad music." "I can't bear to hear that canned game music anymore." "What were the selections? I'm going to Tower later today."


I'm actually a big fan of Neverwinter Nights. I remember not liking the canned music. But it's true that the previous Baldur's Gate Saga and Icewind Dale had absolutely fabulous music (Icewind Dale also won the Best Soundtrack of the Year award).

Usually, classical comes with either mystic, either strategic games. Europa Universalis 2 evokes epic battles and therefore only has classical. UEFA Manager has also a selection of known themes from Faure, Mozart, and others. I admit that the first time I heard Bach's fabulous Passacaglia in C minor (NOT the veeeery well-known one) was while playing Dark Ages of Camelot. Also, Civilization 2 has small videos with every Wonder of the World you build and some of them (like, obviously, the Wonder called JSBach's Cathedral!) have classical music.

Oh boy, do I miss my computer here in Belgium!... \:\(

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#22269 - 04/11/03 08:18 PM Re: Chopin Prelude
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Piano Lady ~ I'm impressed!

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#22270 - 04/11/03 09:04 PM Re: Chopin Prelude
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My students LOVE the Final Fantasy music! (I must confess, I do too). There are going to be three FF VIII pieces being played in my recital this year: Mods de Chocobo, Shuffle or Boogie and The Winner (you know, the song you hear after you beat the bad guy- do do do do dah do dum do dummmm).

I have the books for FF VIII and FF X (and have spent more hours than I will confess to playing the games) and a sheet from FF IX. There is no Chopin in these games (it is all original music from composer Nobuo Uematsu- X has a couple other composers also), but there is a lot of music that resembles classical. These books are very popular with my students, and I've noticed that the kids who are most interested in FF music are also open to classical music. I don't know if there is a connection there or not, but I exploit it for all it's worth.

I get the best results from students who play a little Chopin and a little Chocobo!

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#22271 - 04/11/03 09:43 PM Re: Chopin Prelude
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I've played:

Half-Life
Unreal Tournament
Quake III
Various mods of the above
Starcraft (and Broodwar)
Warcraft 2
Dark Age of Camelot (Gawaine Server)

and I'm currently addicted to:

Warcraft 3
Freelancer
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#22272 - 04/12/03 10:47 AM Re: Chopin Prelude
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Jason, you've playd the games, or the music from the games?

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#22273 - 04/12/03 02:16 PM Re: Chopin Prelude
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The games. \:D
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#22274 - 04/12/03 03:57 PM Re: Chopin Prelude
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Amy, how do I order these books?

Piano Lady, I'm impressed, too!

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#22275 - 04/12/03 09:28 PM Re: Chopin Prelude
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Amy:
I get the best results from students who play a little Chopin and a little Chocobo!


Congrats, Amy! You get the award for staying on topic the most.

John, being a brat but loving the unexpected twists and turns of most threads, B.

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#22276 - 04/12/03 10:02 PM Re: Chopin Prelude
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The chocobo sheets are available here:
http://geocities.com/chocobosheets/
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#22277 - 04/13/03 05:43 PM Re: Chopin Prelude
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Thanks for the link, Jason.

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#22278 - 04/13/03 06:55 PM Re: Chopin Prelude
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Originally posted by dlinder:
Amy, how do I order these books?


Final Fantasy books

I got all of my music from Anime Nation. The two books that my students like the most are Final Fantasy 8 Sheet Music (38.95) and Final Fantasy X Sheet Music (39.95). I'm sure any of them would be good, but I can only speak for the books I have.

John, thanks for the award, it was very difficult for me to stay on topic. I was very tempted to ask for advice on how to defeat Seymour (the 3rd time) in FF X. But I used my will power, and stuck to the topic. (However, if anyone happens to know the best way to defeat Seymour....) \:D

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#22279 - 04/14/03 10:49 AM Re: Chopin Prelude
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Aside from Neverwinter Nights. I've played these other games:

Diablo 2 -- this was my first addiction.
American McGee's Alice -- a sick and twisted tale but good story.
Starcraft & Broodwars
Morrowind
Icewind Dale II
Rainbow Six -- Rogue Spear, Urban Ops, and Raven Shield
SimCity (all versions)
Ghost Recon

Ah, when do I have time to practice?

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#22280 - 04/14/03 11:18 AM Re: Chopin Prelude
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Piano Lady, I am sooo surprised. I didn't have this vision of you. ;\) I have never played a single video game in my life, including Pong!!

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#22281 - 04/15/03 08:15 AM Re: Chopin Prelude
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Thank you, Amy!

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#22282 - 04/15/03 09:51 AM Re: Chopin Prelude
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If anyone is interested in listening to some of this music, here are a few websites you can go to:

Nobuo Uematsu Pull down the download menu, click on Music and go to either

*mp3 (which has an arrangement called "A Journey Throught Final Fantasy VIII")

*FF Piano Arrangement (which has several piano arrangements- the music in the books are easier arrangements than these)

*midis (which has most of the music from the games).


midi's of all VIII songs This one has all the songs as midi's. I don't really like the sound of these midi's, but they at least let you hear the songs. Be sure to check out the Chocobo songs (just pretend you are listening to a piano)!

My student's favorites are:

from Disk 1: The Winner, Breezy, Shuffle or Boogie, Waltz for the Moon, Julia, Timber Owls

from Disk 2: My Mind, Memories, Ami

from Disk 3: Fisherman's Horizon, Odeka de Chocobo, Slide Show 1 and 2 (for some reason 2 has a really annoying noise in it, but just listen to the piano part), Love Grows, The Balamb Fish, Eyes on Me

from Disk 4: Mods de Chocobo, Overture

FF X midi's My personal favorite is To Zanarkand, there are other good ones, but I don't know the titles of them (my book is written in Japanese) so I'd have to go through and listen to each one to find out. So I'll let you pick and choose.

Have fun listening!

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