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#22259 - 03/04/03 06:11 AM Re: Two-Part Inventions
Jalapeņa Offline
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Originally posted by Bontempo:
I mean, the big question should be: What on Earth were these students doing all that time?? And what went throught their teachers' minds in letting them progress so far without actually knowing what they were doing? We're talking about students that should be on Faber PA 1 or maybe 2A!!!


A consciencious teacher should have as a motto "If you can't do something with a minimum quality (and I'm not talking professional pianists here!) then better not to do it at all".

[ 03-04-2003: Message edited by: Bontempo ]


DITTO!

(Bontempo, you'd better lay off the Belgian beer. We're agreeing again!) \:D

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#22260 - 03/04/03 11:11 AM Re: Two-Part Inventions
Lilla Offline
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Sorry, I have to agree to disagree. Nothing to debate here, just the facts. I do not believe it is always right to tell a student that they cannot continue to learn because they are not good enough. Or that they do not practice enough. Or that they are not perfect enough. Some students get enormous pleasure from playing, provide enormous pleasure to their friends and relatives - and yet are not really up to snuff in the musical education world. And probably never will be for any number of reasons. Are we going to deny them the pleasure of a musical life? In our own studios we decide what our goals and expectations will be. But let's also be careful about how judgemental our personal decisions are when we apply our own thinking to the world of teachers at large. I am happy to teach anyone who has the interest. Some of them don't have a whole lot of talent, but come to lessons with enthusiasm and joy. Some are hopelessly over-scheduled but wouldn't dream of giving up lessons. They are not the students for some - but for those of us who have the patience (and lord it takes patience), let's be careful about placing our own personals values where they don't always fit.

P.S. to Jalapena - as a flylady follower I'm quite surprised at the perfectionism. Mmmmm?

"A consciencious teacher should have as a motto "If you can't do something with a minimum quality (and I'm not talking professional pianists here!) then better not to do it at all".

[ 03-04-2003: Message edited by: Lilla ]

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#22261 - 03/04/03 12:10 PM Re: Two-Part Inventions
Jalapeņa Offline
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Registered: 02/20/03
Posts: 1143
Loc: New Mexico
Actually, Lilla, I'm not a "Fly Lady follower." I just visited her website a couple of times & thought her articles were hysterical. Someone needs to provide guidance to "organizationally challenged" individuals who don't know how to declutter & clean house. The Fly Lady seems to know how to dispense much-needed advice with a healthy sense of humor so as not to offend anyone. Here's to the Fly Lady!

Just this past weekend, I showed my home twice. One lady remarked, "I never knew that a house could be so clean! I never knew that kids' bedrooms could look this good!" Made me grin from ear to ear! \:D I just said, "Thank you," but I was thinking, "It looks this way because I work at it." \:\) Good thing she couldn't read my mind, eh? ;\) The other woman hated my decor & said she'd need to change everything (even the kitchen sink), :rolleyes: but at least she didn't say my house was dirty. Had she done that, I sincerely believe I would have knocked her into next year & asked God for forgiveness afterwards!

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