Links to Music Sites

Posted by: Eric

Links to Music Sites - 12/06/00 09:00 PM

Please share your links to interesting music sites. Places where we can do fun stuff like SHOP FOR MUSIC, learn about music, examine sample studio policies, Chat about Teaching,and anything else you can think of that might be interesting. I'd like to start by sharing this site if you ever need to do research on any composer:
http://voyager.physics.unlv.edu/webpages2/picgalr2.html

Other site recommendations?
Posted by: Jalapeņo

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/06/00 09:26 PM

Well, for a good sample studio policy (in my own uppity opinion) can be found by visiting my website at http://www.members.tripod.com/renelleramirez/

Tootin' my own horn

Thanks to Lisa, Eric and other Piano Club members for giving me great ideas to include in my studio policy.
Posted by: Samuel

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/07/00 09:16 AM

Virtual Keyboard: www.xmission.com/~mgm/misc/keyboard.html This site features a diagram of the piano keyboard. You can click on a key and hear the note. The guy that developed the site claims it is a stupid site, but after 15 to 20 minutes, my youngest son learned to locate all the notes on the keyboard.

Piano on the Net: www.artdsm.com/music.html
Piano lessons on-line. Been a while since I looked at this site. Looked interesting, but I would rather have a real teacher.

America's Shrine to Music Mueseum: www.usd.edu/smm Online Antique Phonograph Gallery: www.inkyfingers.com?Record.html
Both are kind of interesting-bookmark them for a rainy day.

Children's Music List: www.cowboy.net/~mharper/Chmusiclist.html
Children's Music Web: www.childrensmusic.org
Two more rainy day sites for anyone with kids. They both offer a large list of links to music related sites for kids, on-line fun and games and audio clips.

Lullabies and Other Songs for Children: www.kididdles.com Cute- useful if you need to remeber lyrics to kid songs such as my all time favorite Puff the Magic Dragon

Pipsqueaks: www.childrensmusic.org/Pipsqueaks.html An on-line music magazine for kids.

Classical Composer Biographies: www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/mn200/music/composers.html Brief biographys

J.S. Bach Home Page: www.jsbach.org A biography and portrait of Bach
Posted by: Eric

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/07/00 10:55 AM

Wow! I can't wait to check out some of these sites. Here's one for those of us who love CHOPIN

The Chopin Homepage:
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/2217
Posted by: Jalapeņo

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/07/00 11:29 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jalapeno:
http://www.members.tripod.com/renelleramirez/

My website also features a links page, so you can go there to find some other useful music sites.



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Posted by: Jalapeņo

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/07/00 12:06 PM

Thanks for the URLs, Samuel. I'm adding some of them to my website's link page so my piano students can visit them. Eric, it was a terrific idea to start this thread. Thanks.
Posted by: Jalapeņo

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/07/00 04:29 PM

Eric, in the "Memorization" thread, you mentioned a website that I think is very good, so I'm gonna list it here:
http://www.serve.com/marbeth/memory_methods.html
Posted by: Eric

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/08/00 08:01 AM

Of course, if we're gonna include links to piano sites, I guess we gotta mention The Piano Education Page. Many of the articles there are helpful, but I find much of it way off-the-mark! They DO have a fun archive of audio files!
http://www.unm.edu/~loritaf/pnoedmn.html
Posted by: Jalapeņo

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/08/00 09:03 AM

I didn't want to mention that site because of the unfair review they gave to the PA method, plus their rather uppity, obnoxious opinions regarding teachers who choose to use one set method rather than no method at all. But I suppose you're right that there are some good things on that site.
Posted by: Jalapeņo

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/08/00 04:14 PM

How about the Brent Hugh (MWSC) piano pedagogy site? I post as "Music Educator" over there. I know Arlene & Marcia post over there, too (using their own names):
http://www.insidetheweb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi/mb175278
Posted by: Jalapeņo

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/09/00 12:12 PM

Chase Music Studios - Piano Pedagogy Topics:
http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/chaseg/pedagogy.html

This is a great site for new piano teachers.
Posted by: Eric

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/10/00 10:47 AM

If you'd like to advertise on the internet, Musicstaff.com may be helpful. I've been on there for over a year and haven't got one call from it. But if nothing else, it's a way to see what other teachers in your area are up to.
http://www.musicstaff.com/
Posted by: Marcia

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/10/00 03:53 PM

Try this one:
www.fleap.com

See what you think and post your comments.

Thanks.
Posted by: Jalapeņo

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/10/00 05:13 PM

 Quote:
Originally posted by Eric Rockwell:
If you'd like to advertise on the internet, Musicstaff.com may be helpful. I've been on there for over a year and haven't got one call from it. But if nothing else, it's a way to see what other teachers in your area are up to.
http://www.musicstaff.com/


I've had the same bad luck (no calls or e-mail responses) from advertising on MusicStaff.com, but am hoping things will change for the better when more people become aware of the site.

Very few teachers in my area are advertising there at present, but at least I have a teeny glimpse of what other teachers are charging for lessons (nobody seems to want to share that info. with me for some reason).
Posted by: Jalapeņo

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/10/00 05:21 PM

 Quote:
Originally posted by Marcia:
Try this one:
www.fleap.com

See what you think and post your comments.

Thanks.


Interesting. I think I'll stick to the blue jello counting system, since the blue jello system has words to fit every rhythmic pattern & can be used in virtually any piece of music. The Fabers do the same thing in the PA method, except with different words. I don't think I want to spend my money on yet another system.
Posted by: Marie

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/11/00 08:30 AM

THanks Marcia for the link.
There's absolutely no way I could get the slap/tap/clap coordinated! I can just imagine my students staring at me as I try to demonstrate!
But I really liked the idea of "Talking Songs", using a preferred counting system. My students need opportunities to concentrate on rhythm without worry over notes. We always tap out our pieces before we play, but it may be more fun to have separate pieces. I really liked their original repertoire "Georges Codfish", etc. I may order just Volumes 1-3 instead of the entire system.
Posted by: Jalapeņo

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/14/00 09:09 AM

Carolina Classical Connection: http://classicalmus.hispeed.cpm/links.html

AAGH! I found this site today & typed in the correct URL, but when I click on it, I get a message saying that the page can't be displayed. I found the site by searching for music education resources at http://www.pedagonet.com.

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Posted by: Rhapsody

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/14/00 09:56 AM

Jalapeno,

There's a typo in the link name. Try http://classicalmus.hispeed.com/links.html It looks interesting. I'll check further when I have more time. You are full of helpful info. Thanks for sharing.

From rainy and hopefully not powerless California, Rhapsody
Posted by: Jalapeņo

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/14/00 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by Rhapsody:
Jalapeno,

There's a typo in the link name. Try http://classicalmus.hispeed.com/links.html It looks interesting. I'll check further when I have more time. You are full of helpful info. Thanks for sharing.

From rainy and hopefully not powerless California, Rhapsody


DUH--another senior moment for me this AM. I triple checked what I typed when I was editing the post, but I missed the typo anyway. Lord have mercy!



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Posted by: Jalapeņo

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/14/00 05:06 PM

Ya know what I don't like about the other piano ped. sites? I can't put in the faces and play around with the fonts!

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Posted by: Eric

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/14/00 07:44 PM

Cool post, Jalapeno! I like the way all the smilies look when they're next to each other!

Y'know what I like about this site? Well, in addition to a great group of people with diverse opinions all sharing, I've noticed a similarity between this site and Piano Adventures.

We've posted at length about one of PA's merits being that it encourages independent learners ~ As opposed to older methods that required a teacher to explain everything to the child, rendering the student helpless outside of the all-powerful teacher.

Well, this site is sorta the same. It's trusting us teachers, in all our varying levels of education and the diversity of our backgrounds and experience, to learn independently from one another, rather than just learning from some Grand Pooh-Bah Expert who writes very all-knowing articles on Pedagogy. Of course, I'm referring to those You-Know-Whats at the Piano Education Page. That site is a total bore and filled with a couple people's tired old opinions. They clearly fancy themselves as THE authority on EVERYTHING.

On the other hand, THIS site is WAY COOL!

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Posted by: Rhapsody

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/15/00 02:44 AM

Eric,

I agree with virtually none of the opinions at the Piano Education Page and think their name gives many people the wrong impression. Their method reviews are inane and their software reviews aren't much better. They sharply criticize Alfred, Bastien and Faber while writing glowing recommendations of Robyn and Pace. Have you seen the Robyn books? They are priceless -- for comedy. Dr. Middle C indeed. And "the Ancient Graces" in "Short Etudes with Ornaments for Piano" creates an entire family tree of the ornaments beginning with Grace, the Baby through the Great-Grandparents. (I can't find a smilie to match the level of humor here.) But I digress.

I have seen references to their opinions of methods on various other piano sites quoted as if they are fact. And many, many sites have links to the Piano Education Page so more and more people will be misled.

They do have some nice MIDI files playing in the background and available for download (courtesy of Classical MIDI Archives?) and some good links. One of their interesting pages is http://www.unm.edu/~loritaf/pnokids.html#Meet the Composer which might help to stimulate interest in a few great classical composers, but there's not much substance.

Promising to search my bookmarks for a good recommendation for the next post, Rhapsody
Posted by: Jalapeņo

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/15/00 08:16 AM

I switched all of my students over to PA, and I continue to receive favorable comments from parents such as, "My child love piano lessons, & I don't have to force him/her to go practice." That says it all, folks! I'm not here to debate the soundness of various pedagogical approaches & methods, but I am going to boldly state that it doesn't matter how pedagogically sound a method is if the music isn't appealing, if the illustrations on the pages turn kids off because they're too babyish, or if there's not enough familiar tunes mixed in so the kids learn to play a few songs they already know. The Fabers have done a superb job with PA, & I can't wait 'til they release a pre-primer method & levels 6-8!
Posted by: Jason

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/15/00 08:55 AM

Nobody's mentioned this yet:
http://www.music.indiana.edu/music_resources/

...and of course there's my home page...
http://people.mw.mediaone.net/jsifford

...and the absolutely hilarious...
http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~bogo/tit/home.html

Then there's:
http://www.ptg.org/

Mac users can download an excellent free software notation package at:
http://www.noteheads.com/
Posted by: Lisa Kalmar

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/15/00 12:18 PM

cackle,cackle,cackle Unfortunately the cackling has produced c-c-c-coughing due to viewing the T.I.T. site and I may have to go the hospital stat. Thanks for sharing! (Who are those guys anyway to come up with all that great stuff? I especially loved the fitness area...)
Posted by: Jalapeņo

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/15/00 05:50 PM

I bookmarked the T.I.T. site but haven't had time to browse through it. Now I know what to do with my weekend.
Posted by: Rhapsody

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/16/00 11:03 AM

http://www.cbc4kids.ca/general/music/default.html has: Name That (Classical) Tune which has some interesting tidbits, Guess the Instrument, and some current music pages. It can be slow waiting for the audio clips.

http://DataDragon.com/education/ has several pages -- my favorite is http://DataDragon.com/day/ -- This Day in Music History gives composer birthdays as well as Broadway play openings & music charts info. Happy Birthday, Beethoven -- either yesterday or today.
Posted by: Jalapeņo

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/16/00 05:13 PM

I guess the Data Dragon page on musical genres might help the clueless mother who called me a while back about lessons & didn't know what I meant by musical styles.
Posted by: Samuel

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/17/00 09:19 AM

This morning I recieved an email from practicespot.com asking me to check out their new teachers forum that they added to their site. I checked it out and for a couple of minutes I was in a state of confussion. I thought I was at the Fabers Piano Club. The layout of the forum could almost pass for the Fabers forum except all the posts were in green and white instead of blue and yellow. They even have the burning
folders, lightbulbs, the smilies, the post and reply icons are located in the same position and the show topics box are in the same place. The site looked 98% Faberish. I kept searching the site to see if the Fabers had anything to do with the site.

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Posted by: Jason

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/17/00 09:56 AM

That's because they're using the same software. Check out the grey text at the bottom of your page - this BBS is powered by "Ultimate Bulletin Board."

I've run across several sites that use this software - they can customize the colors and text, but the nuts and bolts are the same for all.
Posted by: Eric

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/17/00 08:06 PM

Here's a site where you can download sheet music absolutely free. Of course, with Piano Club friends like Michele and Rhapsody, I'm hardly in need of lost treasures! Here's the site:
http://www.sheetmusicarchive.com/

I just downloaded a piece by Henselt....pretty cool.
Posted by: Jalapeņo

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/18/00 08:45 AM

Cool! Thanks, Eric!

My weekend didn't turn out like I planned. I was hoping to spend more time navigating the above-mentioned sites, but instead our household got hit hard by some awful virus. At 11PM Sat., we had to rush my 2-year-old daughter to the ER. She had a 105-degree temp. that wouldn't come down, & she was shaking uncontrollably. We didn't get back home until 3AM Sun. She couldn't keep anything down (not even the fever med.), so we had to stay there while they got her fever down, did a bunch of tests & pumped fluids back in her through an IV. Poor little thing!

Renelle, who's trying to catch up on her rest today, if that's possible. There's not a face on this site for someone who's worn out, is there?
Posted by: Rhapsody

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/18/00 06:54 PM

Jalapeno,

I would recommend extra Vitamin C along with lots of liquid and lots of extra quiet, gentle attention for your ailing daughter. Sometimes a reassuring stroke of the hair or a delicate caress or soft word can help aid healing. When you're sick your body is already stressed, so anything soothing helps. I hope she bounces back quickly.


There are various websites which offer downloads of demos, shareware and freeware of music applications. The following page has "Music Tuition" programs: http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/win95/MUSIC_TUITION/ while their homepage has various other types of music software such as Ear Training, Notation, etc.: http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/

Another music software site is: http://harmony-central.com/Software/Windows/
Many of the same titles appear on both sites but each has unique listings as well.
Posted by: Jalapeņo

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/19/00 05:49 PM

 Quote:
Originally posted by Rhapsody:
Jalapeno,

I would recommend extra Vitamin C along with lots of liquid and lots of extra quiet, gentle attention for your ailing daughter. Sometimes a reassuring stroke of the hair or a delicate caress or soft word can help aid healing. When you're sick your body is already stressed, so anything soothing helps. I hope she bounces back quickly.


There are various websites which offer downloads of demos, shareware and freeware of music applications. The following page has "Music Tuition" programs: http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/win95/MUSIC_TUITION/ while their homepage has various other types of music software such as Ear Training, Notation, etc.: http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/

Another music software site is: http://harmony-central.com/Software/Windows/
Many of the same titles appear on both sites but each has unique listings as well.


Thanks, Rhapsody. I took all 3 kids to the doctor this AM. My 2-year-old is doing much better today (dr. said there's a virus going around that is causing high fevers; I think they like saying "virus" whenever they really don't know what it is, hee-hee), but now my older 2 daughters are sick. The 9-year-old is really congested & has achy body & slight fever. The 7-year-old has sinusitis & "whinitis." Still, they're well enough to fight with each other & stress me out! Can't wait 'til they go back to school tomorrow...
Posted by: Jalapeņo

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/20/00 03:31 PM

Are any of you guys gonna post over at the practicespot.com teachers' forum? They just got it up & running, so there aren't many posts yet.

Also, I'd like to know if any of you have tried those new CDs being sold by Theodore Presser--the ones that are printable sheet music. I e-mailed TP & enquired about them, to see which editions they're using. I didn't get a full answer. I was told that they use the top-selling public domain editions. I take it they're not urtext. Also, I found out that you can't edit them before printing; you have to print what's there. BUT supposedly these printable sheets are acceptable for use at contests, etc. I suspect that these editions are probably old & not the best; but I haven't seen or tried them, so I don't know. Sure is cheap to get all of Chopin's works on one CD for only $18.95. They have many others available as well; some only cost $14.95. They're available at Burt's, & I've seen them at my local music store. Any comments on these?
Posted by: Marcia

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/20/00 11:10 PM

I have a f ew of the CDs: Sonatinas and Easy Classics, J.S. Bach, Haydn and Scarlatti, and Piano Duets. I have used them a few times already when a contest piece is one included on the CDs. One thing that may be a drawback is the size of the printed notes (pretty small). I intend, partially, to use them to choose music for students that may be ordered in other books with larger print. It IS neat to be able to have so much music at your fingertips. Students can sit down at the computer and choose what looks interesting to them.
Posted by: Marcia

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/20/00 11:11 PM

I have a f ew of the CDs: Sonatinas and Easy Classics, J.S. Bach, Haydn and Scarlatti, and Piano Duets. I have used them a few times already when a contest piece is one included on the CDs. One thing that may be a drawback is the size of the printed notes (pretty small). I intend, partially, to use them to choose music for students that may be ordered in other books with larger print. It IS neat to be able to have so much music at your fingertips. Students can sit down at the computer and choose what looks interesting to them.
Posted by: Jalapeņo

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/21/00 09:18 AM

 Quote:
Originally posted by Marcia:
I have a f ew of the CDs: Sonatinas and Easy Classics, J.S. Bach, Haydn and Scarlatti, and Piano Duets. I have used them a few times already when a contest piece is one included on the CDs. One thing that may be a drawback is the size of the printed notes (pretty small). I intend, partially, to use them to choose music for students that may be ordered in other books with larger print. It IS neat to be able to have so much music at your fingertips. Students can sit down at the computer and choose what looks interesting to them.


So other than the small notes, the editing is OK (no errors)??? At this point, I'm primarily interested in the technique CD.

Fellow club members, I've just updated my web site. I finally figured out (after playing around for hours) how to add more pages, change the font colors (that light yellow font color was driving me bananas!), etc. So now I have the same info., but the site is easier to read & easier to navigate (more clicking, less scrolling). Now, can anyone (perhaps Rhapsody?) tell me how to add music? Is it possible to add music to a Trellix site? That's the only thing I feel I need to add now.
Posted by: Rhapsody

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/21/00 10:17 AM

Jalapeno,

I don't have a site of my own and can't offer much help. What very little I know about html's I've learned from trial and error when I've saved pages from various sites of interest. I just went to your site and saved a frame and then edited it by adding the lines relating to the MIDI file from an e-card from Blue Mountain to your Document Source and saved the changes and the MIDI file played right away. But that was just from my hard drive and I have no idea how to work with frames, etc. But now I can listen to Gounod's "Funeral March of a Marionette" while reading about your quality instruction. Sorry I can't be of help.
Posted by: Jalapeņo

Re: Links to Music Sites - 12/21/00 10:46 AM

 Quote:
Originally posted by Rhapsody:
Jalapeno,

I don't have a site of my own and can't offer much help. What very little I know about html's I've learned from trial and error when I've saved pages from various sites of interest. I just went to your site and saved a frame and then edited it by adding the lines relating to the MIDI file from an e-card from Blue Mountain to your Document Source and saved the changes and the MIDI file played right away. But that was just from my hard drive and I have no idea how to work with frames, etc. But now I can listen to Gounod's "Funeral March of a Marionette" while reading about your quality instruction. Sorry I can't be of help.


Thanks for trying. I think I'm gonna get in touch with the Trellix tech support people & see if they can help me.

BTW, if you want to create a website, the Trellix program is very easy to use because you just choose your background (there are several); everything else (page layout, colors, etc.) is pre-formatted. The problem is learning how to change the format! For example, it was pre-formatted to have 4 pages. I wanted more than 4; it took me what seemed like 10 forevers to figure out how to add pages & link them together. Changing the font color & size is easy in the text itself, but not in the page headings. The title "Renelle's Piano Studio" was pre-formatted in yellow; again, another 10 forevers to figure out how to change to a different color.

Once you create your Trellix site, you can publish it for FREE with Lycos Communications, provided you also have a Lycos e-mail address (also free).
Posted by: Amber Thornton

Re: Links to Music Sites - 01/02/01 09:28 AM

Here's a neat site for ordering classical music. (online or you can order a catalog from the site as well)
www.pattimusic.com
Posted by: jonathanens

Re: Links to Music Sites - 02/15/01 05:53 PM

I would like to add my site to the list - www.pedaplus.com. The main content is piano pedagogy-related. There is a Forum, links page (including a link to this site), online scores in Scorch format (look, listen, transpose, change tempo, in some cases print). One big emphasis of the site is sacred music (piano and choral). Also includes some RealAudio clips.